Re: conculture list?

Marina de Flores wrote:
>
> Hawsinger wrote:
> > Laurie Gerholz wrote:
> >
> > > I don't see why the proposed conculture list would have to only draw
> > > from the population of conlang-L. We probably will get a bunch of
> RPGers
> > > as word gets out. Heck, that's where I started. I like to think we
> might
> > > uncover a bunch of nascent conlangers.
> >
> > Which is why I would not join. No disrespect or flames intended but
> > RPGers
> > just aren't my crowd as a rule.  Why not just add a subject tag here for
> > concultures?  As for my views, my conlangs NEED concultures, without
> > them
> > they just aren't compelling to me and I might add, vice versa.
>
> I have to agree with this. I've never been able to create a well-formed
> conlang without asking myself who was going to speak it, where would they
> live, and so on. Every time I try to detach conlang from conculture I get
> this feeling that my work has, in a sense, no base, and I end up creating
> a conculture, perhaps developing more than the conlang itself.
I'm the same way. I respect and appreciate the efforts of conlangers who
make artlangs in isolation of any other construction. But I thoroughly
enjoy all the non-linguistic elements which people have offered.

>
> To Laurie:
> Of course some of us have started as RPGers, or at least have gone down
> that road sometime (I'm one of the latter), but I daresay most RPGers don't
> fell a special curiosity about conlangs. (The opposite would be nice.)
Equivalently, I've seen that most RPGers don't feel a special curiosity
about concultures, except as how it immediately affects the plot of the
game. I was trying to propose that the subset of RPGers who *are*
interested in concultures would also be likely the ones who might take
an interest in conlangs. I'm not trying to distract us with a discussion
of RPGers tastes.
It sounds like the issue is already solved for us. I saw the mention of
the World-Builders list (which I'm shortly going to sub to and check
out), and also that the conculture list had been started (which I'll
also shortly sub to).

>
> As for a CONCULTURE: subject tag, I'd be OK with it, but it's quite
> probable
> that most of us will make some concultural statement in otherwise
> completely
> "pure" messages, so... where'd the limit be?
I agree that it would be tricky and slippery. So I'll see you all over
on the other lists and we can find out how it works with separated
lists.

Laurie
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