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Re: Have Had, Had Have (Was Re: Posting limits)

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 0:09
David P:
> Tristan wrote: > <<(If Philip had've said 'Rhode Island', I would've had no trouble,>> > I'm not sure if you realized you wrote this, or if it was an accident, > but you just gave me some evidence of something I say exists, but > no one in the department believes exist: Using *two* modal "have"'s. > I do it often when I say something like, "I would've had to've had eaten".
Well observed. You can point out to people in your department (Berkeley, isn't it? Surely they should know better! Hopefully at least the people in Tom Wier's department would know better) that McCawley, peace be upon him & his blessed memory, discusses this in _The syntactic phenomena of English_ & constructs an ingenious argument about the auxiliary _have_ being an expression of past tense (the grammatical feature, not merely the semantic notion). (The details escape me, what with syntax being a young person's game & me no longer young.) --And.

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