Re: A conlang database program
From: | Dan Sulani <dnsulani@...> |
Date: | Sunday, July 11, 1999, 17:07 |
Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> Dear people,
>
> I've been working on and off on ideas for a bit of software to help in
> analyzing and describing a language,along with my ideas for an ideal
> grammar (
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/conlang/dream.html), and I've
> prepared a design draft (which is also intended for consumption by the
> non-conlang linguistic community). I'd like you all to comment upon it:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Boudewijn,
It looks like a very ambitious undertaking! I wish you success.
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> Entities
<snip>
> * Lexical data
Just one question, though:
under the heading of "Lexical data", are you considering only lexical
units
coinciding with what are usually considered single words, or perhaps
(although it probably increases the programming complexity :-( ) also
considering
lexical units which coincide with multi-word phrases such as
idioms, common metaphors and similies, and social phrases (with which
normal conversations are usually liberally sprinkled). For example,
in English, I would tend to think of the following as unitary
expressions,
not created, "on the fly", by lexical selection and syntactic
construction:
"how do you do" (which means "greetings"; if analyzed word by
word,
the only logical response being
"do
what?" :-) )
"a red letter day" (= important day )
"drunk as a skunk" (= very drunk; makes no semantic sense if
analyzed
word by word)
"cold as hell" ( = extreme cold [ !!??])
BTW, I realize that the similies "drunk as..." and "cold as..." have
many
variations, (most of which
are not suitable for family entertainment :-) ), and I've heard some
pretty
hard men curse at length, and it very quickly gets stereotyped and
boring,
suggesting that they were
in fact employing "frozen", non-productive metaphors and similies, i.e.
single
lexical units.
The true virtuoso probably _does_ compose on the spot, building
utterances as
the ideas come.
Dan Sulani
--
likehsna rtem zuv tikuhnuh auag inuvuz vaka'a.
A word is an awesome thing.