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Re: more blabbing about Tech, the eternally unfinished conlang

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, January 23, 2003, 15:15
En réponse à Danny Wier <dawier@...>:

> > Yeah, it's a major influence. In a way, Tamazight is "compressed > Arabic", > and that along with Hebrew and Georgian (and Quebecois French) gave me > the > idea of "compression", where the consonant-to-vowel ratio of a language > is > increased while number of syllables and utterance time is decreased. >
Hehe, I use that in Maggel too (some of its inflections consist in getting rid of a vowel or two ;))) ).
> > I need to refresh myself on erotic French, true...
LOL. I cannot be of much help here, my erotic French is rather gay ;)))) . since Tech is in a
> way a > "satirical conlang", it'll be well-suited for politics, religion and > sex. > Another feature is the fact that a word can have an alternative > meaning > completely opposite of its literal meaning. I've heard of some > conservatives > refer to themselves as "classical liberals"; there's an example. Or in > the > religious/spiritual sense, "life" can mean "death" and vice versa > (evangelical Christians refer to the "born again" conversion experience > as > "dying in Christ"). >
I just need to use that in Maggel! From now on, the word |bltafj| ['bK\Ev] (now *that's* a tongue-twister for me!!! ;) ) which until now meant "strange, weird" will also mean "cool" ;))) (OK, not exactly an opposite, but you get my drift ;))) ). And now I'm expecting "bltafj" to be adopted by the list as a new synonym of "cool" ;)))) (only if you can spell it correctly ;) ).
> > The neuter gender, however, will be functional, since ergative indicates > a > subject/actor that's less "active" than a nominative. Only inanimate > objects > can be neuter (and the neuter is based on the masculine).
Do you mean that neuter nouns will be identical to masculine nouns, except that they will have an ergative-absolutive rather than nominative-accusative distinction? It could be
> a > subject of an active voice verb that's really playing a passive role. > > Also, causative verbs would need an ergative. How would a car hit a > pedestrian? Something would have to cause the car to do such. Driver = > nominative, car = ergative, pedestrian = accusative looking for a > lawyer. >
LOL :) .
> So I need three cases. >
Common among split-ergative languages. I know they usually use the genitive as an ergative (IIRC). Is that an idea?
> > I missed the post that defined "maggelity", so I'm not sure...
Now *that's* a mortal sin!!! ;)))) OK, once and again: Maggelity /m@gE:lIti/ (noun) The state of being entirely unpredictable. [from _Maggel_ a constructed language by Christophe Grandsire, which had an unpredictable orthography +_ity_] Etabnannery /r@mn{n@ri/ (noun) The state of appearing entirely unpredictable, but, upon closer analysis, failing at even being that. [from _Etábnanni_ a constructed language by Tristan McLeay, which was *supposed* to have an unpredictable orthography, but ended up just having a confusing one. Damn people trying to make patterns everywhere. At least it's a bugger to typeset!... err... back to the derivation +_ery_] Both definitions by Tristan McLeay (hence the bitterness when referring to his own conlang ;)) ). a
> dialect > might have a mutation similar to modern Irish Gaelic, where /d/ lenites > to > /G/ rather than /D/ as in Old Irish. MST /s/ can mutate to either /z/ > or > /h/, which isn't terribly original. ~Danny~ >
Oh well, having mutations at all is already a nice step ;)) . Who knows, if you implement the mutations in Old Tech, maybe the sound changes until Modern Tech will provide for insteresting Maggelish mutations ;)) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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Arthaey Angosii <arthaey@...>
Danny Wier <dawier@...>