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Re: OT: sorta OT: cases: please help...

From:Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...>
Date:Thursday, December 13, 2001, 17:32
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:17:35 +0100, Christophe Grandsire
<christophe.grandsire@...> wrote:

>En réponse à Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...>: >> >> Not so weird, if you consider the use of _de_ (resembling Gen. a lot) >> with >> negations in French. (Christophe? I always make mistakes in French :( >> ) > >You're correct about the use of "de" for objects of negative verbs (J'ai
>voiture, je n'ai pas de voiture), but I wouldn't consider that to be part
>the genitive use of "de", but rather of the partitive use of "de", like "du >sucre": sugar, even though in this case the definite article is not present
>the "de" form.
Actually, I meant one of the uses of the case termed Genetive in Slavic (as well as many other IE languages, including some ancient Germanic ones). There's always a confusion between "cases" proper used in specific languages and the (post-)Fillmorean metalanguage categories used in assorting various functions of nominal actants. My point was that the various uses of _de_ seem to match very well many uses of Genetive in Slavic, which is indeed remarkable. Basilius