Re: OT: sorta OT: cases: please help...
|From:||Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...>|
|Date:||Thursday, December 13, 2001, 17:32|
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:17:35 +0100, Christophe Grandsire
>En réponse à Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...>:
>> Not so weird, if you consider the use of _de_ (resembling Gen. a lot)
>> negations in French. (Christophe? I always make mistakes in French :(
>You're correct about the use of "de" for objects of negative verbs (J'aiune
>voiture, je n'ai pas de voiture), but I wouldn't consider that to be partof
>the genitive use of "de", but rather of the partitive use of "de", like "du
>sucre": sugar, even though in this case the definite article is not presentin
>the "de" form.
Actually, I meant one of the uses of the case termed Genetive in Slavic
(as well as many other IE languages, including some ancient Germanic
There's always a confusion between "cases" proper used in specific
languages and the (post-)Fillmorean metalanguage categories used in
assorting various functions of nominal actants.
My point was that the various uses of _de_ seem to match very well
many uses of Genetive in Slavic, which is indeed remarkable.