Re: Ideographic Conlangs
From: | Muke Tever <mktvr@...> |
Date: | Thursday, November 28, 2002, 3:05 |
From: "Tim May" <butsuri@...>
> Muke Tever writes:
> > From: "Tim May" <butsuri@...>
> > > Egyptian isn't ideographic, it's logographic. It's an important
> > > distinction - all known scripts in human history have had a
> > > phonetic component (there have been attempts* to _construct_
> > > ideographic scripts, but I don't think any of them have achieved
> > > completion, let alone been widely adopted).
> >
> > But the phonetics often become divorced from the script, and so the
> > script doesn't synchronically have _any_ phonetic component. Isn't
> > the Japanese use of kanji like this? One character, without any
> > change in form, can stand for several different morphs of similar
> > meaning (and probably different meaning too, but I'm not exactly
> > accomplished enough in Japanese to know any).
> >
> This is true, but Japanese also contains phonetic characters*.
In different scripts...
But yeah, the Arabic numerals could go there too, being as 1234567890 are a
widely-used script with no phonetic component (even within a single
language--you could accept "1" being pronounced [thuw] but then what's it doing
in "11"?)
*peers extremely closely at what he wrote*
Good heavens. I mean "1" being pronounced [wVn]. [thuw] indeed...
*Muke!
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