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Re: Ideographic Conlangs

From:Muke Tever <mktvr@...>
Date:Thursday, November 28, 2002, 3:05
From: "Tim May" <butsuri@...>
> Muke Tever writes: > > From: "Tim May" <butsuri@...> > > > Egyptian isn't ideographic, it's logographic. It's an important > > > distinction - all known scripts in human history have had a > > > phonetic component (there have been attempts* to _construct_ > > > ideographic scripts, but I don't think any of them have achieved > > > completion, let alone been widely adopted). > > > > But the phonetics often become divorced from the script, and so the > > script doesn't synchronically have _any_ phonetic component. Isn't > > the Japanese use of kanji like this? One character, without any > > change in form, can stand for several different morphs of similar > > meaning (and probably different meaning too, but I'm not exactly > > accomplished enough in Japanese to know any). > > > This is true, but Japanese also contains phonetic characters*.
In different scripts... But yeah, the Arabic numerals could go there too, being as 1234567890 are a widely-used script with no phonetic component (even within a single language--you could accept "1" being pronounced [thuw] but then what's it doing in "11"?) *peers extremely closely at what he wrote* Good heavens. I mean "1" being pronounced [wVn]. [thuw] indeed... *Muke! -- http://www.frath.net/

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