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Re: Ideographic Conlangs

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Tuesday, November 26, 2002, 5:16
Tim May wrote:
> Really, the point is that - as a general rule - all scripts encode > particular spoken languages, as opposed to the neoplatonist idea that > heiroglyphs directly stood for ideas without the mediation of > language, which is suggested by the term "ideographic".
And even if there were ZERO phonetic elements, it would still represent the WORDS of a language. So that if, for example, the language did not distinguish between "blue" and "green", they would use a single character for both, or, on the other hand, it would distinguish "elder brother" and "younger brother" only if the language distinguished those. It may distinguish homophones, of course, if the speakers are aware of the two concepts being different from each other (like the two meanings of "bat", for example) There's also the possibility that it would encode differences from other influential languages, as in the differing Chinese characters for "he" and "she".
> * Also, I think some kanji are used in situations where they're > basically phonetic, but I'm not sure to what extent this is > significant in the modern language.
AFAIK, it's only used in names nowadays.
> they'd use a homophonous character (this is before the kana came > into being)
That's how the kana evolved. The kana are basically simplified characters. -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42