Re: Nur-ellen in the world of Brithenig (was Re:Nur-ellenuniverses)

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Jörg Rhiemeier wrote:

Yscreus il Ioergs Rhimer:
/i'skrews i:'jo(W)Erg hri'mer/

>What language is it labelled in?  The names are often quite different
>from those found on Andrew's pages.
Ah. You've discovered the fundamental difference in modern Kemr;
i.e., the language divide. It's labelled in Kerno, spoken in the
southern Province of Dunein / Y Rheion Padguar lor Dunor (for the
Nationalists).

>Another question: what sizes are the cities of Kemr?  I guess that
>Castreleon is around 500,000 or 600,000, which seems right to me for the
>capital of a country numbering 4 million.  Aberddui would then count
>some 300,000, with Esca and Tafrobl being around 200,000.
Sounds about right to me.

>
>> It will need updating, as there are now llo Ylyl to deal with. Let me
>> know where they are with respect to *here* and *there*'s geography!
>
>The city of Tafrobl is in northern Illemarcca (to use the form on your
>map) on the river Trent, just northeast of the second "l" of
>"Illemarcca" on your map.
That's Bilemarcca (the "B" didn't come out too well apparently), or
Border March.

Which bank is Tafrobl on, and is that the oldest form of the town's
name?

>This is where the river intersects the 2-degree meridian.  Of the
>200,000 citizens of Tafrobl, almost one half are Ylyl.
I think I should be able to find that.

>
>Tafrobl and its vicinity, however, is not the only area with a
>substantial Ylyl population, though this where most of them are found
>and Nur-ellen is most lively in use (and the beautiful Elvish script can
>be seen on road signs).  There are actually quite many in Gwent and
>southern Ill Pays, mostly along the Wye and Usk rivers; this also means
>that their is a sizeable community in Castreleon (Lejonost) itself.
>Smaller groups are found in a few villages along the northern river Dui,
>in Termorgan and in Kernow.
>
>(There seem to be remnants of this folk even *here*, as cited in Price,
>_The Languages of Britain_, along the Wye, Usk, Dee and Tyvi rivers" and
>in the Vale of Glamorgan, though they have lost their language.)
>
>Besides, there is a second pre-Celtic group if you like.  Their
>language, however, is unrelated to Nur-ellen (though it has borrowed
>quite much, especially cultural terms, from Quendian): it is a form of
>Pictish.  This Pictish language seems to be remotely similar to Basque,
>though it also parallels Berber in some points.  It is hardly a living
>language in Kemr; it is spoken in a handful of small villages in upper
>Termorgan and its existence is precarious.  The speakers of this
>language are visibly of different stock than the Ylyl, being of darker
>complexion and of shorter build than average Kemrese.
>The Picts demand the recognition of their language as an official
>minority language on the ground that they have been there even before
>the Ylyl.
Then queue up!

Any other town names and locations?

Padrig.

>
>Syld,
>Jörg.
>