Re: Nur-ellen in the world of Brithenig (was Re:Nur-ellenuniverses)

Me govanen!

Padraic Brown tetent:
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> Jörg Rhiemeier wrat:
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> >>Must have been quite a time ago.  The map just isn't there.
> >>You should know better what is on your own pages and what not!
> >
> >Arright, arright. I'll try and find and then repost it.
>
> It was there, but with an incorrect link. Try:
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> polaris.umuc.edu/~pbrown/brithenig/map.jpg
What language is it labelled in?  The names are often quite different
from those found on Andrew's pages.

Another question: what sizes are the cities of Kemr?  I guess that
Castreleon is around 500,000 or 600,000, which seems right to me for the
capital of a country numbering 4 million.  Aberddui would then count
some 300,000, with Esca and Tafrobl being around 200,000.

> It will need updating, as there are now llo Ylyl to deal with. Let me
> know where they are with respect to *here* and *there*'s geography!
The city of Tafrobl is in northern Illemarcca (to use the form on your
map) on the river Trent, just northeast of the second "l" of
"Illemarcca" on your map.
This is where the river intersects the 2-degree meridian.  Of the
200,000 citizens of Tafrobl, almost one half are Ylyl.

Tafrobl and its vicinity, however, is not the only area with a
substantial Ylyl population, though this where most of them are found
and Nur-ellen is most lively in use (and the beautiful Elvish script can
be seen on road signs).  There are actually quite many in Gwent and
southern Ill Pays, mostly along the Wye and Usk rivers; this also means
that their is a sizeable community in Castreleon (Lejonost) itself.
Smaller groups are found in a few villages along the northern river Dui,
in Termorgan and in Kernow.

(There seem to be remnants of this folk even *here*, as cited in Price,
_The Languages of Britain_, along the Wye, Usk, Dee and Tyvi rivers" and
in the Vale of Glamorgan, though they have lost their language.)

Besides, there is a second pre-Celtic group if you like.  Their
language, however, is unrelated to Nur-ellen (though it has borrowed
quite much, especially cultural terms, from Quendian): it is a form of
Pictish.  This Pictish language seems to be remotely similar to Basque,
though it also parallels Berber in some points.  It is hardly a living
language in Kemr; it is spoken in a handful of small villages in upper
Termorgan and its existence is precarious.  The speakers of this
language are visibly of different stock than the Ylyl, being of darker
complexion and of shorter build than average Kemrese.
The Picts demand the recognition of their language as an official
minority language on the ground that they have been there even before
the Ylyl.

Syld,
Jörg.