Re: McGuffey Readers now available in Tatari Faran!

San tse!  Tatari sa nari!   Tse sa nari ei. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 2:12 AM
Subject: McGuffey Readers now available in Tatari Faran!


> As part of the ongoing commitment to stifl^H^H^H^H^H discourage OT
> threads and YAxPT's with Tatari Faran posts,
hyk hyk hyk!! <--taitfo Teonaht

 The Editors hereby
> announce the publication of the electronic form of the Primer from the
> classic McGuffey Readers in Tatari Faran(!). You may now view this
> best-selling^H^H^H^H^Hviewing illustrated classic at:
>
> http://conlang.eusebeia.dyndns.org/fara/mcguffey/index.html
>
> Accompanying this momentus tome is a set of Tatari Faran utterances
> illustrating 220 carefully^H^H^H^Halphabetically selected entries from
> its lexicon. You can purchase^H^H^H^Hview this, uh, illustrative
> collection here:
>
> http://conlang.eusebeia.dyndns.org/fara/exer1.html
>
> The next edition will include more entries from the lexicon, which is
> now rumored to be 776 entries long of which 709 entries are single
> words, 25 are phrases, 9 are affixes, and 33 are pseudo-entries. There
> are 400 references and 103 cross-references in total.
>
> The Editors regret to announce that due to technical inadeq^H^H^H^H
> difficulties, no audio samples of Tatari Faran are available yet.
Aillyyy! :(

In
> the event that this unfortunate situation is rectified, no effort
> whatsoever will be made to refrain from announcing the availability of
> said audio samples. We apologize for the convenience.
hyk hyk hyk, hterme! :)

> ;-)
>
> T
>
> --
> But of course, I am *the* most humble person in the *whole* world!
Ai, ai!


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Vyko... I love the fact you got this up.  It's a GREAT start!  It took wild
horses, though, to drag a compliment in TF out of me--corrections
welcome!--since it's so hard to cobble something together.

What I think your pages need, and it will take time, is constant
reinforcement of information...which might require more web space, which is
a pain.  The McGuffey Reader is a wonderful idea, but translate the
examples, damn it!  :)  It's just a parody, at this point, of McGuffey, and
not a useful teaching tool (though I love the lifted pictures!)  One must
move back and forth between your TF lexicon search (which you don't provide
a link for on your MG Reader);  and in order to refresh one's memory of the
cases and affixes, one must pore endlessly over previous pages of your
grammar (link to grammar needed in addition to the index).

And trying to write in it!  (Something I'm sure you'd like your colleagues
to attempt!)  As it stands, you don't have any illustration of possessive
pronouns that I could find, although something could be cobbled together
from the genitive and the regular pronouns; but how does the genitive ending
mesh with the case affixes?  Why not give tables of pronouns and ways to
express possessive pronouns?  People love tables instead of being told "Here
is the first person."  "Here is the second person."  Tables are byte
gobblers, but they save space on the screen and are eminently readable.
So... just some suggestions for the future!  :)

Could the "search the lexicon" use some refining?  Couldn't find "your" at
all; I figured out that to find "see" or "and" (and not get every instance
in which you use these words in your English directions) that I needed to
specify the word's part of speech.  Didn't work in every case.  I'm sure
that it will improve as you add to it.

I LOVE your Tatari Faran, Teoh; it is so original!. But you make it so
difficult to learn, primarily because you don't give enough repetitive
information.  Repetition is GOD in conteaching. ;-)  Actually in all natlang
teaching.  Maggelity aside.

Vyko,
Li uehar volwen
(Whose own pages are terribly omissive as well...so I'm one to talk)

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