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Re: Sh!

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Friday, September 6, 2002, 15:00
En réponse à Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>:

> I read to today that the use of [S:] as an interjection to tell people > to be > quite is common to all languages of the world. Then, newspaper > articles > aren't known for being completely reliable on lingusitic matters*, so do > any > of the real linguists or knowledgeable amateurs on the list know how > true > this is. >
French uses [Syt], but also often simply [s:] or [S:]. I'd say it's probably nearly universal that languages use a fricative of some sort (at worst an affricate), but I would be so bold as saying that the fricative used is always alveolar or postalveolar.
> * I once read an article that denied the validity of the Indoeuropean > grouping. Interesting idea, but somewhat marred by the authors > apparent > belief that the linguistic grouping could be disproved by showing the > IE-speakers don't form a biologically recognizable group.
Showing thus a complete misunderstanding of linguistics. Since when do linguistic groups have to map with biological groups? That's completely misunderstanding how languages work... He also
> indicated > that anyone who believes in the IE grouping is most probably a racist. >
Well, I'd rather say that someone who doesn't believe in the IE grouping for this same reason *is* probably the racist one. After all, it's that person who brought up the subject of biological grouping, not the ones who advocate the IE gamily group... Sorry for ranting, I just hate when people accuse others of what they are doing themselves. Had I seen such an article the newspaper would have received a nice letter from me :) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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