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From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Saturday, June 17, 2000, 4:18
>From: Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
>Danny Wier wrote: > > where > > the Neogrammarians (the traditional reconstructionists) had p/b/bh, >t/d/dh > > etc. (the 'Sanskrit model'), Gamqrelidze and Ivanov have promoted an > > alternative theory where the stop system is p/p'/b, t/t'/d, where C' is >an > > ejective > >One variant proposed that the ejectives had implosive allophones, >explaining why they became b/d/g in many IE langs.
REALLY?! I was hoping so, and I thought that besides. The non-ejectives have aspirated-unaspirated allophonism, so if the voiceless ejectives become voiced implosives, that results in the same six-way stop/affricate system of Igbo! (Incidentally, Sanskrit voiced stops became voiced implosives in Sindhi, then borrowed Arabo-Persian words and kept the voiced stops as plain voiced. That's a five-way system, where you have p/ph/b/bh/b'. And you probably guessed it; Tech does the same thing. But unlike Igbo, Tech has three phonemic distinctions which can be mutated (like Irish and Welsh) thusly: Fortis: p' ph bh Lenis: b' p b (glottalic is voiced; others lose aspiration) Spirant: f' f v (first an ejective fricative) Nasal: m' mh m (first an implosive nasal; second a voiceless/aspirated nasal) And that's in addition to palatal-labial-pharyngealism, which is six-way: C C` C~ Cw C`w C~w That's plain, palatized, labialized, labio-palatized, pharyngealized and labio-pharyngealized. Syncope of short vowels and 'umlauted' short vowels result in this. (There are two types of 'umlaut': 'front umlaut' which causes fronting/palatizaation of vowels, and 'back umlaut' which causes backing/pharyngealization of vowels.) Danny Wier ¶¦¬þ Lufkin, Texas USA http://communities.msn.com/DaWier ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com