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From:BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Sunday, June 18, 2000, 13:32
At 23:18 16.6.2000 -0500, Danny Wier wrote:
>>One variant proposed that the ejectives had implosive allophones, >>explaining why they became b/d/g in many IE langs. > >REALLY?! I was hoping so, and I thought that besides. The non-ejectives >have aspirated-unaspirated allophonism, so if the voiceless ejectives become >voiced implosives, that results in the same six-way stop/affricate system of >Igbo! (Incidentally, Sanskrit voiced stops became voiced implosives in >Sindhi, then borrowed Arabo-Persian words and kept the voiced stops as plain >voiced. That's a five-way system, where you have p/ph/b/bh/b'.
Then there is Vennemann's version, which, if I understand it aright, says that it was the Neogrammarian P-T-K which were ejective, with B-D-G implosive and Bh-Dh-Gh plain, with voiced and/or aspirated allophones. In that case Sindhi suggests that Indo-Aryan kept the old order of things, except that it introduced a voiced/voiceless aspirates distinction, mainly by reinterpreting sequences like *tH2 as unit phonemes -- _pathan_ "path" is the usual example. This version explains the Germanic sound-shift neatly, as ejectives often affricatize. It also makes the IE consonant system and its sandhi phenomena very similar to modern Korean! /BP B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melroch@mail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ A h-ammen pennuid i phith! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ____ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /Melarocco\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine__ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ Gwaedhvenn Angelmiel\ \_____/ / a/ /_adar Merthol naun ~~~~~~~~~Cuinondil~~~\_______/~~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda cuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)