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From:Padraic Brown <pbrown@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 3, 2000, 2:04
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Nik Taylor wrote:

>Steve Hefford wrote: >> There's no word for extinction in Kurinets, I'm not sure they would have >> the concept. I haven't yet created a word for 'invent' so I used 'tjime' >> meaning create or craft. > >I don't think there would *be* a word for "invent" in Utakassí, which is >why I used glí, create or make. They're not big on the whole idea of >change and progress like our culture.
Talarians see progress as something that happens naturally or organically: not as an imperative. Invention is literally "give birth to". Thus: FFawto-he tenxwwanusha-can martan-hal : ffarasaahto tenxwwar-can. strike(imper) lang(gen) dying(v.n., dat) : invent(imper) lang(acc) Literally: Strike a blow on languages' dying: give birth to a language! Some new elements: 1) a formalisation of Siever's Law (VCCw/yo or V:Cw/yo > VCCuwo/iyo or V:Cuwo/iyo). This was one of those things that was already happening in the language, but I had no clue until reading about it. In this case, in Sihler's "New Comp Grammar of Gk and Lat". Talarian has this for example in "tenxwwar", language: ww = /uw/; while a yy would equal /ij/. Of course, IE [o] becomes [a] or [&] as always. 2) some subdivisions within the Neuter class of nouns. Apart from the "regular" neuters (like pihwwar, grease, fat and xosar, candied eyeballs); there are the familial nouns (hasur, sister and tatar, grandfather); an agentive noun in -tar - like -tor in Latin - (tomtar, tooth (the biter) and hahuhamtactar, drover); an action noun in -an (xaattan, a going, road and halomtan, a drinking, draught); and a currently nameless verbal noun in -toos (hastoos, ember (the burnt thing), etc.) The Neuters all share the common trait of having stems in -r/-n (though the verbal nouns have some cases in -s as well). 3)restoration of the glide y [j]. [j] > [h] just didn't seem right. 4)some tweaking with the numbers. 5)formalisation of the primary/secondary topic distinction in the definite article.
>Dievas dave dantis; Dievas duos duonos
Taking into account the changes: Teywas-tas tomtan-can toohit-he : teywas-tas taamtoos-can taahti. god(s)-2 tooth-1 gave for : god(s)-2 bread-1 give A 1 denotes the primary topic, while a 2 denotes the secondary topic. Padraic.
>God gave teeth; God will give bread - Lithuanian proverb >ICQ: 18656696 >AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor >