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Re: Jackson's "Elvish"

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 8, 2002, 2:47
From: Elliott Lash <AL260@...>



> Sally Caves <scaves@...> writes: > > > > > Could any Quenya expert make out the > > chanting? The words spoken--briefly--by > > Arwen and Aragorn? Does anyone have > > the score on CD? > > Others have already referred you to the site where these are discussed.
One minor quibble.Arwen and Aragorn dont speak Quenya to each other, in fact, Quenya is hardly used in the movie..and with good reason...since it was not the daily language of Middle-Earth, Sindarin was. Sorry, I meant Sindarin! Thanks for the link to the Orkish. I've already devoured it. I find that Helge's interpretation of the passage is similar to mine--I almost wrote that the verb/nouns had to have some kind of "intentionality"-- "for ruling them-all, for finding them, for bringing them-all, for binding..." One thing he notes, and I actually like this, is that the Black Speech may make no distinction between plural and singular except through the use of _ash_, "one," or some such designation. So that _nazgul_ may be plural unless modified by a singular particle. What an idea. Well, it's back to the Appendix and the Silmarillion. Sally Caves scaves@frontiernet.net http://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves/teonaht.html Aket uon rin ad potoht sa panorem. Ring one concerning them all for (purpose of) ruling. BS more compact!
> Go here: > http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/orkish.htm