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Re: Yet another ASCII-IPA scheme...

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Saturday, November 10, 2001, 3:56
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 00:54:11 +0100, Jörg Rhiemeier
<joerg.rhiemeier@...> wrote:

>(The palatal and velar laterals in the IPA chart are really >palatal_ized_ and velar_ized_ ones, if you ask me, and are thus >rendered [l_j] and [l_G], respectively.)
One of my old languages, Devérrin, has an actual velar (not velarized) lateral. Since I didn't have an IPA symbol for it (this was before the small-capital-L started showing up on the IPA charts), I used the pound sign {£}, which at least looks like some variety of {L}. It doesn't contrast phonemically with a velarized "l", but it doesn't sound like one either (more like a cross between "l" and the American "r" sound; I think I actually used "lr" as a romanized spelling).
>Vowels Front Central Back > >Close i y *i *u "i u > I Y U >Close-mid e "o *e *o "e o > @ >Open-mid E "O *E *O "E O > & *a >Open a "a A *A
This use of the " mark with the vowels reminds me of the American phonetic tradition of using umlauts on the vowels to switch them between front and back (for instance, using {ï} for the turned-m high unrounded back vowel). I have no idea whether they still teach this, but at least it has a historical precedent. You could also use ["u] for IPA [y]. Two things that doesn't quite fit are ["a] for the rounded equivalent of [a], and [*A] for a non-central vowel. If you use B. Philip Jonsson's suggestion of [6] for the low back rounded vowel (which I adopted for later versions of KPA), you could then have ["6] for the small capital OE ligature. -- languages of Azir------> ---<>--- hmiller (Herman Miller) "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any email password: thing till they were sure it would offend no body, \ "Subject: teamouse" / there would be very little printed." -Ben Franklin


Keith Gaughan <kmgaughan@...>