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Re: "In spite of"

From:Eugene Oh <un.doing@...>
Date:Friday, August 15, 2008, 5:42
Cl. Ar. has a noun "abtos", which is used for "despite" in this way:
noun.GEN abtorae (which is abtos.DAT)

I don't know what "abtos" could mean!


On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Harold Ensle <heensle@...> wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:08:50 -0400, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...> > wrote: > > ....... > >How do y'all express this meaning, whether as as conjunction or > >adposition or case or whatever, in your conlang or in natlangs > >you know? I'm particularly interested in languages where it's derived > >from some more basic root rather than being an unanalyzable > >particle. > > I am not sure it would make sense for a language to derive it from some > root > as it is such a basic concept...and if a language did so, I would think it > would > be very idiomatic. > > In Ankanian 'despite' is the opposite of 'because' and is composed of two > fundamental case markers: The exlusive marker on the genitive case. > > The exclusive indicates that A and B are exclusive of each other and the > genitive indicates that A is being governed by B. (dative would indicate A > governs B; nominative would indicate no governing; instrumental would > indicate dependent or mutual governing) > > -eyu because (genitive+inclusive); -ewi despite (genitive+exclusive) > > Vesun se keyu. I said it because of him. > Vesun se kewi. I said it despite him. > > Harold >