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Re: monovalence

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 1:13

Peter Bleackley <Peter.Bleackley@...> writes:
> staving Paul Bennet: > > Br'ga verbs each have exactly one argument. ... > > I came up with a similar idea a while ago - see >
About a year later, I had a similar idea and called it S11. There was some discussion, too: The main idea I had is already summarised in the thread about Iljena: Indeed, S11 would allow noun-verb-verb-verb constructions, too. There may even be a class of words that can substitute a noun-verb fusion, namely adverbs. There is something here: Beware: no examples, and possibly a bit dry to read because of that... I was positively surprised to see a text in Iljena in the relay. I did not know that the grammatical structure was virtually identical to what I think S11 will have to look like. Currently, I gather that Br'ga (Paul), Iljena (Pete), Q~'u^pl! (Adam), Oro Mpaa (Christian), and S11 (myself) are languages of this kind. Unfortunately, I mainly created phonology and grammar outlines for S11 so far, but no lexicon, so there are no sample sentences yet, just theory (I even composed a bison grammar, but no lexicon...). Like Paul, I also often think about how to split verbs that are 'naturally transitive' to me into intransitive structures. In contrast to you, Pete, I don't necessarily perceive the structure as alien -- for me, it is a naturally elegant solution to what e.g. Lojban tries to do the other way around: to solve the argument vs. adjunct problem. Instead of finding the borderline of core cases vs. secondary cases (i.e., arguments vs. adjuncts), this type of language has a fixed borderline at exactly one argument. No problem, just a neat, simple borderline. Combined with the concept of serial verb construction, it feels perfectly human to me. Of course, it's extreme, but I don't feel it's alien. So how did you come up with the idea? As I said, for me, it was a solution to the (my?) argument vs. adjunct problem. **Henrik


Peter Bleackley <peter.bleackley@...>