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Re: Some interesting stuff...

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Friday, April 20, 2001, 17:10
At 1:10 pm -0400 19/4/01, David Peterson wrote:
> Anyway, the other thing was George Lakoff claimed, in one fell swoop, >that a lot had been written about the nature of aspect, but that absolutely >everyone else was wrong, and that he found the one and only correct origin of >aspect,
Umm - I'm always rather skeptical when someone makes that sort of claim. Everyone's out of step except me ;)
>and it's a diagram as follows. > -------Iterative--------- >Ready-----Start-----Process-----Finish-----Result > - - - > - Interupt - - Continue >Cancel Suspend
I understand the Ready-Result axis, but it's not clear to me how the other aspects (iterative, cancel, interrupt etc) are meant to relate to it. [snip]
>of his aspect model. You can't tell me that someone saying "I am ready to >love you" would not be hilarious.
The Romans had thought of that one: te amaturus sum. Indeed, Esperanto of course has the 'Ready', 'Process' & 'Result' points on the Ready-Result axis: mi estas scribonta [Ready] mi estas srcibanta [Process] mi estas scribinta [Result] ...with a fully developed tense system for each aspect. If we follow Lakoff (and at the moment I need some convincing), we need to fill in the two gaps, i.e. [Start] and [Finish]. Ray. ========================================= A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language. [J.G. Hamann 1760] =========================================