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Re: The Language Code, take 2 (or 3)

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 11, 2003, 4:13
Hey, Dirk -- this is dead ace stuff.

> T type > f fictional > l logical > x auxiliary > p personal > n natural > o other
I would prefer 'e'/'engineered' to 'logical'. Maybe also a parameter for associated culture, real or fictional?
> P phonology > t tonal > c contour tones > r register > # number of tones > l level tones > ! downstep/downdrift > # number of tones
You're the phonologist, but I'd have thought that stuff like whether tone is the property of the word or the syllable would be more important/fundamental than, say, whether there is downstep.
> M morphology > a agglutinating (+/-) > i isolating (+/-) > f inflecting (+/-) > h head-marking (+/-) > d dependent-marking (+/-) > t# number of distinct tenses > a# number of distinct aspects > m# number of distinct moods > t/a# number of distinct tense/aspect combinations (where a > meaningful distinction between tense and aspect cannot be > made) (also t/m, a/m, etc) > c# number of distinct cases > g# number of genders or noun classes > n# number of number distinctions
Does this mean (i) number of X in the grammar, (ii) number of X encoded morphologically, or (iii) number of X encoded inflectionally? Since it's in the Morphology section it must mean (ii) or (iii), but (iii) would make sense only for Mf+. So maybe (ii) is meant; but that's much less interesting. For syntax, I urge a parameter for head-First/head-Last, e.g. English would be Sf++, Livagain Sf+++++.
> English: Tn Pt*p++24,9(c)v(c) Wntar-- Mi++f+dt2a3c2n2 Sbsvoargn > Lc++d+1000000+
Why "(c)v(c)"? That's an unusual characterization of the English syllable. Or does c and v mean "one or more Cs/Vs"? I guess it must.
> Shoshoni: Tn Pt*p+++12,6(c)v(v/c) Wntar++++ Ma++f+h++d+t/a13c3n3 > Sbsovargn Lc+++d++25000? > Tepa: Tf Pt*p+++11,4s(c)v(v/c) W* Mf++h+++t*a2c*n4 Sbv..argh Lcd+600 > Shemspreg: Tp Pt*p+22,5s(c)v(c) Wnar+++ Mf+d+++t/a3c3n2 Sbsvoargn > Lc+d++1000
Livagian: Tfl Ptl3p++++28,8c(v) Wnadr++++(Wfsr++++) Mi+++f+h++d----t0a0m0c4g0n0 Sb*argo Lc-d-2000-10000? As soon as you declare the code fixed, you must get John to write his perl thingo so one can actually read these codes. --And.

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Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>