Re: Received Wisdom on Waponi (LONG)
|From:||Leo Caesius <leo_caesius@...>|
|Date:||Friday, July 28, 2000, 14:26|
"My thought was that w2 would blend with neighboring rounded vowels, so
"vukano", "fofu" or "fofuu" (long V are OK, in fact they often originate in
PN from C-loss.) A long V might tend to shift the accent, fofúu, unless we
want to preserve Latin antepenult accent-- in at least some cases?"
Sounds good to me. I'm not of any particular mind regarding the accent
- such things are hard to track over a long time; in fact, I would think
that accent on these words might follow PN standards rather than retain
"A revision, which it seems you've already done: Let /d/ > /t/. That
business of d>r>l(>w), while it reiterates the phonolgical history of PN,
was a little far-fetched. I mean, sure, there are "persistent rules", but
after 1500 years or so......?"
Actually, I've tried to introduce several sound changes to "do /d/ in."
My reasoning behind gladius was that, by this time, d had already become a
voiced affricate before front vowels. Later this became unvoiced (hence the
kwatseu). I'll introduce the further sound changes that you suggest once I
return to Cambridge (I'm going to be in Jersey for a week visiting the
folks). I think that I can find a way to eliminate those final vowels in
hiatus and create bisyllables.
Other ways I've dealt with d:
decimus - sicimu
laudator - wowatO
domus - tomu
and before front vowels it becomes c. I don't know if this accurately
reflects the outcomes of d in Polynesian, however.
"Let the entire sequence -tsi- reduce to /ts~s/"
That sounds fair. The same convention was certainly used in some vulgar
"The problem of other C+iV# remains. Are there many such
forms, -(cg)iV, -(pb)iV? (I had pluvium the other day, > **pwuvi > puvi.
Can't think of others offhand, my vocab. is rather spotty.)"
Yes, quite a few. Think of all the -tio, -tionis (or -tia) nouns - there
are also a few -viu(m/s)s, -liu(m/s)s, -riu(m/s)s, and a few other
combinations. Caesius, for example, is Latin for "blueish-green."
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