Re: Enochian, also ritual language, was: The search...perfect language

On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:53:22 +1200 Andrew Smith
<hobbit@...> writes:
>On Sun, 13 Jun 1999, Steg Belsky wrote:
>> [higgOle na uPros HaBiBi 6Olaj es sukas S@lojmExO
>>  tO?ir ErEts mikvojDExO nOGilO v@nism@xO B@xO]
>Let's see if I get this right.  In a Steghian sung accent:
Well, it's important to remember that all these rules are
generalizations....all i usually do is sing what 'sounds right' at the
time.  For instance, at the end of this song, there is a *single word*
which is pronounced vocally Galitzianer as [v@Hunajni] (real Galitzianer
would use [x] instead of [H]) instead of, for instance, Classical
[w@HOnenu].  Out of the whole song, the word _vehhaneinu_ just sounds
"right" in Galitzianer.

>Dagesh Forte _appears_ to be ungerminated when a consonant is
>unvoiced,
>although there is not enough evidence to rule this as consistant.
It's probably geminated where i learned (but didn't absorb at the time)
to geminate - verbal conjugations such as the first radical of
future/imperative-Nif`al [higgOle] and the second radical of Pi`eil, i.e.
[l@Sallem].

>Dagesh Lene is preserved.  Vet and Fei are bilabial fricatives rather
>than
>labio-dental fricatives.  Tav becomes Saf after a vowel.  Gimel, Dalet
>and
>Kaf preserve their classical pronounciation.  A distinction in
>pronunciation is made between Het and Khaf.  Both alef and ayn are
>preserved in speech.  Sadei has become a fricative.  Waw becomes Vav
>and
>is distinct from Vet.
The bilabial fricatives are something that "just happens" to me,
especially [f] >> [P].  I do that a lot in Spanish and Hebrew, and is the
reason why Rokbeigalmki has the pair [P] and [v], but not [f] or [B].
Tav isn't Saf after a vowel, but where it's not dagesh'd - short vowels
cause a dagesh-hhazaq (forte) in the following consonant.

>It looks like to me that the pronunciation of long and short qametz
>has
>not collapsed together if I read O and a correctly, except possibly in
>monosyllables.  Generally classical values for vowels are preserved
>except
>Holem(?) becomes a diphthong in a open syllable.  Schwa in the initial
>syllable of a word is always pronounced.
The reason why _na_ is [na] and not [nO] is probably because that word is
sung on a rising note, and [a] sounds better to me at higher notes than
[O] does.

>Just what I suspected.  You have the basis for a very interesting
>phonology there, Steg.
Thanks,
although i realized i messed up some of the phonetic transcriptions...the
second-to-last word is _venissmehha_, with a hhet [H]/[x], and not a khaf
[x].  Also, the Ashkenazic transcription is European Diasporan, not
American...Americans say [ow] for hholam, not [oj].

>- andrew.
>
>Andrew Smith, Intheologus
>hobbit@earthlight.co.nz

-Stephen (Steg), who taught a six-month-old baby the first few paragraphs
of _Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man_ in between bilabial trills.

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