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R: Re: R: Re: Who's in Ill Bethisad anyway?

From:Mangiat <mangiat@...>
Date:Monday, April 2, 2001, 20:18
Robert wrote:

> > If yes, you should take a look at Rumauntsch, Ladin (perhaps also
> > which is strictly tied to the Ladin branch of the Romance family),
> > Romande (the French spoken in Switzerland) and the GalloItalic dialect
> > Ticino. Alas, I can speak and know only the last one - but I have some
> > notes and a short lexicon of Friulian/Furlan. > > > > I'd be happy to help you. > > > > Luca > > Ooh. Well, I'll be sure to take a look at all those. For now, my biggest > question is, do any of those have front rounded vowels, and if so, what > sound shift resulted in them? If you know that, that'd be great.
Lemme see... Well, as for Suisse Romande and Schwitzerdütsch, they obviously have front rounded /y/ and /Y/. As for the variety of Rumauntsch-Ladin spoken in Switzerland, I'm not sure, the only knowledge I have of it is based on Swiss banknotes (where there's written only something like: Banca Naziunala Svizra - Tschuncanta Francs - la banconoda è protegida dal dretg penal). Friulian does not have them. The GalloItalic dialect of Ticino (it's a variety of Lombard spoken about 10 kms northern than I am) has them. They are the result of proto Romance /O/ and /u/: /rOta/ 'wheel' > /rYda/ <röda>. This however works only with open stressed syllables, indeed: /kOrpu/ 'body' > /kOrp/ <corp> Both /O/ and /Y/, when unstressed, become /u/: /rO'taja/ > /rudaja/ <rudaja> /kOrpu'rale/ > /kurpu'ra:l/ <curpuraal>. /o/ becomes /u/: /dolore/ 'ache, pain' > /dulu:r/ <duluur>. /u/ becomes /y/ both in open and closed syllables: /kuna/ 'cradle' > /kyna/ <cüna> /kurtu/ 'short' > /kyrt/ <cürt>.
> Thanks in advance!
That's nothing! Luca


Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>
Robert Hailman <robert@...>Who's in Ill Bethisad anyway?