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Re: The pitfall of Chinese/Mandarin

From:Adam Walker <dreamertwo@...>
Date:Saturday, December 8, 2001, 9:47
I did not write one word of what you quoted below.  Though I agree with the
author of those words, they are not mine.  Get your attributions straight.

Adam

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>From: Cheng Zhong Su <suchengzhong@...> >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> >To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU >Subject: Re: The pitfall of Chinese/Mandarin >Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:18:25 +1100 > > --- Adam Walker wrote: >If you want to > > >create a perfectly short language, you should use > > all places and manners of > > >articulation for consonants, add some clicks and > > othe esoteric sounds, > > >distinguish 5 different levels of frontness for > > your vowels, rounded and > > >unrounded. So this gives us about 80 consonants and > > 30 vowels, allowing for > > >2400 combinations. Add six tones to this, and you > > have almost 15,000 > > >possible CV syllables, which is about as short as > > it gets. You could > > >express > > >all basic stuff with one short syllable, and by > > adding a final consonant > > >(CVC), you could make another 1.2 million more > > esoteric words, all just one > > >syllable. You should be able to think really fast > > in such a language.... if > > >you ever manage to learn it! >Answer: I have said to learn less. That include >letters. Suppose we need 2400 'phonetic types' , we >may have 800 consonants 2 vowels and 2 tones and we >may also have 14 consonants, 14 vowels and 14 tones. >In the first case we need learn 800+2+2=804 symbols, >while in the second case we just need 14+14+14=42 >symbols. Of course, all those sound elements need to >be approved by user. >I want my languages to be ambiguous > > and not too easy to > > >learn. I want them to have a certain feeling, i.e. > > my elven languages use > > >mainly fronted and sharp sounds, and long syllables > > that end in vowels or > > >semi-vowels, wile dwarven tongues prefer harsher, > > more uvular and darker > > >sounds and shorter syllables that often end in > > stops. > > > > > >Maarten >Answer: you may just thinking yourself and your native >language, but I think more and more people like a >clear and easy to learn language, beside it can >preserve your culture. >Su Cheng Zhong > >http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping >- Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers!
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