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Re: Igassik pronouns

From:Jeff Jones <jeffsjones@...>
Date:Saturday, November 4, 2000, 10:16
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:23:29 -0800, Marcus Smith <smithma@...> wrote:

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>The system doesn't really encode social distinctions like the SEA languages >do, but rather the speakers level of respect for or general attituted >toward that person in a given context. > >Example: Say I'm telling you about my wife's father. Since he is an in-law, >I would use the formal pronouns krae and sor. I start telling you about >what he was like when my wife was a child (as she had related it to me). In >these cases, I slip into her point-of-view, and use the familiar pronouns >keom and Doy (because that's what she would have used). He was an alcoholic >and abused his wife and children, so when I talk about this from my own >perspective, he gets the proximate/distal category depending on his >physical and metaphorical distance at the moment: now and he or miu and >Del. I don't go all the way to Animal because he has since reformed so is >still worthy of some respect. Thus, when I talk about him in current >contexts, I use the formal again. If he never did reform, then I could >refer to him with the Animal forms hiu and ew. > >These are not the kinds of distinctions one would necessarily want to make >when talking directly to someone. Hence, there is only a single set for >first and second persons.
A nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. Let's see, treat all people the same to their face, but dis them behind their backs. Besides, I'd fall into the "animal" category -- an unmarried person "over a certain age". We won't go into the other possibilities! Anyway, with all the apparently unrelated pronouns, it looks like a language only a native (or a linguistics graduate student) would ever learn. I like your example. Jeff