Re: Triggeriness ...

Isn't sa a locative marking in tagalog which is used when the location
isn't the trigger? Or am I confused? Most arguments are just marked by
ng (whatever they're doing in the sentence) if they're not the trigger,
but for some reason locations are treated differently.

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>>Assume we want to translate the English sentences "I bathed _in the pool_"
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>given two arguments, there would be two possiblities.
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>>and "I killed a shark _in the pool_"
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>three possiblities here.
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>>(apparently erroneous) understanding, these would become something like
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>>the_pool-TRIG bathed-LOC 1st.sg-S (i)
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>this look like locative focus (sort of lit. "the pool was- bathed-in by me"
>= proper Engl. "the pool is where I bathed)--  IIRC, lst sg. would carry the
>"oblique" marker in Tag., it definitely wouldn't be marked as "Subject"
>since "pool" is the grammatical "subject".  I think.........
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>you could have (i.a) I-TRIG bathed-ACT pool-OBL
>(where OBL might possibly could be a locative prep., I'm not sure) That
>translates : I bathed in the pool
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>>the_pool-TRIG killed-LOC 1st.sg-A a_shark-P (ii)
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>again, 3 possibilities
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>I'll ask a Tag. native speaker (and linguist) friend about these. As well as
>Carsten's example sentences.  I also have a paper of hers, and I'll see what
>I can dig out of it.  I'm curious too, and regret I never studied Tag. or
>Bisayan. They are clearly much more complicated than any Indonesian language
>of my experience.
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>The following I''m simply not sure about.........
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>>and therefore it would a perfectly well-defined question which, if any, of
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>>markers S, A and P are identified. Say that the markings S and A are the
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>>and we'd have a nominative trigger language; say A and P are the same, and
>>we'd have a MRL trigger language; and so on.
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>>It would still apply if we retopicalize:
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>>1st.sg-TRIG bathed-S' the_pool-LOC' (iii)
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>>1st.sg-TRIG killed-A' the_pool-LOC' a_shark-P (iv)
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>>a_shark-TRIG killed-P' the_pool-LOC' 1st.sg-S (v)
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>>since we simply ask which, if any, of S', A' and P' are identified.
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>>Also, since this is apparently NOT how a trigger language works, what
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>>one call a language that DOES work like this, and are there any?
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