Re: Triggeriness ...

Garth Wallace wrote:
> takatunu wrote:
>
>>
>> B. This is what I gather from some posts on this thread:
>>
>> (i) The two core actors of the English active verb "to plant" are the
>> gardener and the roses.
>>
>> (ii) The gardener is called the "agent" and the roses the "patient" of
>> that
>> English verb.
>>
>> (iii) All other possible actors of this English verb are "secondary",
>> including the garden.
>>
>> (iv) English is underlying all other languages.
>>
>> (v) Ergo (1) the only core actors of the Tagalog lexy equivalent to the
>> English verb "to plant" are necessarily the agent and a "patient", (2)
>> the
>> Tagalog patient is necessarily the roses and (3) the "trigger system"
>> doesn't exist.
>
>
> I don't think anybody was arguing for that (and certainly not premise
> iv). It looked to me like some people were arguing that trigger systems
> were a particular kind of voice system that can promote any semantic
> case role to a core argument.
...or, to turn that around, that voice systems were a particular (more
limited?) kind of trigger system, for that matter.