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OFF : Clusters & Gibberish (was : vowel scheme for new language)

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Date:Saturday, May 22, 1999, 8:39
Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 22/05/99 02:08:13  , Pablo a =E9crit :

> > I find it interesting that Pablo restricted "yu" without known reason. > > > =20 > I really don't have a clue why I did it -- but now=20 > it's allowed anyway. In an early stage of the language > I found that I was also unconsciously avoiding some > other things, particularly initial fricative + stop > clusters, except s- + stop, which was undoubtedly > English influence.
see how English spoils our Latin genius ;-) Nowadays I have Drasel=E9q words like
> _fqen_, _ft=F2g_, _thkelsen_, _thp=E0sen_, etc. (voiced > fricatives are not allowed in this case). Now _fqen_ > is not very "flowing" as I said I liked -- but it's > there.
I can understand what you feel with pleasing with these clusters : my early=20 words were a lot of tk_, tp_, pt_, kt_, tsh_, tm_, km_ , tl_ , tn_ initials = : kta : get kte : chief tma : cut tpun : stone tla : speak tli : write tka : fall tnu : think tshun : destroy there were a lot of glottal stops [?] everywhere. -t + t- =3D dental stop an= d=20 -k + k- =3D velar stop. I can pronounce that phonology very easily and it is=20 enthralling. example of sentence (I was around 14) : Ak tnu?u tka ?an tpun pa?an kte tli?i tmu ?at. I think that you fall (on) stone when the chief writes that he eats. Subclause was started by doubling the vowel of the verb with glottal stop=20 inbetween : tnu ?ak : I think > ak tnu?u ... : I think that ... Something other conlangers use a lot : "case" by word order : subject was after the verb when there was no direct object : tka ?ak : I fall. Indirect object was after subject : tka ?ak tpun : I fall on stone. ak (shu?un) tka ?at tpun : I (make) him fall on stone. It was not ergative, though : tma ?ak : I cut. ak tma mu : I cut meat. tma ?a mu : the meat is cut. tpun ?a tka : the stone is fallen on I still find all this appealing. Hmm... maybe I should make something out of=20 it again :) Mathias