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Re: DECAL: Examples #1: Phonetic inventory examples & motivations

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Friday, January 14, 2005, 22:29
Sai Emrys wrote:
> OK, so. How about a slightly less ... controversial topic, this time. > This is the first in a series of queries. > > I'd like to have a bunch of examples from Real Live (or trying-to-be) > Conlangs to have at hand for my class as samples of how conlangers > decide certain questions, and on what basis. > > I probably won't use *all* examples I get, but the more (and the more > varied) the better - especially for the "motivation" part. > > I may use these during class (which will be recorded), or to print in > lecture notes, online examples, quizzes, problem sets, or the reader. > I will, of course, give credit for anything I use - please include the > name and URL / email you'd like to be credited by (I'll use whatever > your sig lists, as a default).
melroch@melroch.se
> First off: phonetic / phonemic inventory.
Don't you want the name of the language? It is Sohlob /sQ'KQb/.
> > Q1: What is your *phonemic* inventory? I.e., what are all of the > discriminated phonemes in your conlang(s). (IPA / CXS / X-SAMPA)
Phonemic inventory in CXS: Vowels: FRONT CENTRAL BACK HIGH i (y) i\ u LOW & (&\) 6 Q Consonants: LABIAL DNT/ALV ALV-PAL VELAR GLOTTAL STOPS p b t d ts\ dz\ k g FRIC f v s z s\ x G h NASALS (hm) m (hn) n (hJ) J (hng) (N) LATERALS K l TRILLS r_0 r SEMIV. w j
> (Side question: CXS is the "standard" notation for this list?)
Yes, practically. Who can remember which of { and } are & or u\? ;)
> Q2: What are the allophones? I.e., for each phoneme, what are the > "normal" variants that don't change meaning?
Vowels: /6/ may be [a], /&/ may be [E] and /Q/ may be [O]. This is largely dependent on dialect. The Kidilib dialect lacks /i\/, having /i/ where other dialects have /i\/, and has /E/ instead of /&/. Front rounded vowels occur only in the Heleb dialect; to let them creep into ones pronunciation of Classical Sohlob is highly stigmatized. Consonants: outside the Kidilib dialect the phonemic status of the voiceless nasals and /r_0/ is doubtful, hence the notation with preceding |h| and the parentheses. Voiceless stops and /ts\/ are actually aspirated and may be aspirated lenes [b_0_h] etc. in some positions. They are realized as unaspirated fortes only after /s/ and /s\/. In the Kidilib dialect /rp rt rts\ rk/ may be realized as voiceless trill plus voiceless lenis [r_0b_0] etc. Next to voiceless consonants (which occurs only at word boundaries) and at the beginning or end of utterances the voiced stops are realized as voiceless lenes [b_0] etc. The voiced affricate /dz\/ has a fricative allophone /z\/ mainly before /d/. The voiceless trill /r_0/ is likely to have an allophone [s`], since in Classical Sohlob it is written as if it were |s\r| and it corresponds to simple /s\/ in the Heleb dialect. In Kidilib it is better entrenched and written |hr|. In the Heleb dialect /dz\/ and /j/ have merged into a single phoneme realized /dz\/ or /z\/. Intervocalic /j/ has largely disappeared in a process of contraction giving rise to long vowels (including front rounded vowels).
> Q2b: If you have any, what are the connotations / implications of the > different allophones? E.g., do you use them for different dialects, > registers, "accents", etc.?
Yes definitely, as outlined above. There is also the Lindjeb "dialect" which inter alia lacks palatals and is really another language (not mutually intelligible). While Kidilib is clearly a dialect Heleb is at least for social purposes the low register of Classical Sohlob. It is only religious functionaries, poets and literati (often the same individuals) who actually speak Classical Sohlob. Heleb is not regarded as a proper medium for serious writing, and since it lacks an orthography even shop- keepers and similar people write in a mixed language: essentially Classical Sohlob with spelling and grammar "errors" due to the influence of Heleb. There is also a southern dialect (Isterdjub) which is not yet worked out. Most importantly there is also a proto-language Kedjeb (lit. "Ancient language") which all the dialects descend from.
> Q3: How do your choices for the above reflect the goals of your > language? E.g., if it's an auxlang [here!?], it's probably motivated > by having common, strongly "universal" common-use phonetics to > maximize learnability. So, for whatever your goals are for the > conlang, how do they apply to the choices you made for phonetics / > phonology?
I want historical depth and a naturalistic feel. Another goal was a phonology similar to Persian and Turkish, since there are way too many pseudo-celtics out there. (I love Sindarin, however!) Then I couldn't help myself but pepper it with some phones that I find facinating, like voiceless sonorants and /K/. I'm a card-holding Icelandophile, namely.
> Thanks, > Sai > >
Answers to the phonotactics message will probably have to wait to early next week... -- /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se Solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant! (Tacitus)