Re: Encourage new browser or use ASCII?

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:17:20 -0600, Muke Tever <hotblack@...> wrote:

>Not everyone has their own computer they can install modern programs on.
>Some people are stuck with library access or whatnot.   (Ask me about the
>joys of trying to log in with a non-ASCII username while on vacation
>sometime.)
>
>[And Firefox's stubborn continued lack of implementation for the CSS2
>property 'inline-block', breaking my beautiful furigana templates, has
>really soured it for me.] :p
Really? I didn't know that. I thought Firefox was mucho up-to-date on W3C
standards. Yeah, but IE6 borkens a lot of what I like to do, and to a much
greater degree than Firefox.

Furigana? Nihongo ga wakarimasu, ne? What's your site url?

>> And then again, using Unicode extensively is a real pain in the ***,
>> having to write &amp;#x00E7; or whatever a lot.
>
>Maybe this is a hint that you should get an up-to-date text editor ;) and
>code your pages in UTF-8. Even Windows Notepad can do that these days.
Code it in UTF-8. Okay. Does it automatically put it in? I usually only use
Notepad when I'm messing with TXT and CSS files.

Either way, I do have a fairly up-to-date html editor. I use a user macro
for hexagonal Unicode numbers, it automatically inserts &amp;#x0|; with | as
the cursor. 'S pretty cool.

>It can't hurt to be accommodating. On Wiktionary everything that people
>are liable to be unable to read appears with transliterations, IPA being
>transliterated to (X-)SAMPA.  On my own sites I prefer Unicode, but some
>of my older stuff doesnt, from before I discovered the joys of IMEs and MS
>Keyboard Layout Creator.
I guess I'll have to go look around in my computer. I don't know those
exist, either.

>I would suggest also letting the user's browser choose fonts for Unicode
>text, or at least making sure the stylesheet recommends fonts that contain
>the characters you intend to use; browser font substitution can be an ugly
>thing.
Sounds good. How does one recommend other fonts for Unicode, etc.? I'm not
familiar with that. Would that be a span element set to Lucida Sans Unicode,
or what? (I'm not a dummy when it comes to CSS, but I'm not sure how to
implement what you're talking about.) And how does that solve my IE6 unicode
woes? It botches the Unicode in both mine and David Peterson's web pages.

Ben

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