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Re: SAMPA sucks! (Or, a few samples of the Ridiculese...)

From:Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>
Date:Friday, April 9, 2004, 22:25
> First of all, welcome back! Nice to know you're a Frankenlanger too. Now > I'm > going to whine about why I hate X-SAMPA (but I use it anyway). >
Thanks! And I'll likely be agreeing with you all the way!!
> One replacement I would make: [H], which represents the labiopalatal > semivowel (French consonantal 'u'), should be changed to [y\]. I want to > think of the voiceless pharyngeal fricative (which is currently assigned > [X\]) when I see [H]. More people speak Arabic as a first language than > French; mostly on that basis I'd make the reassignment.
Hm, I agree!
> Side question: I've seen Cyrillic-based phonetic scripts (mostly for > Uralic > or Caucasian purposes), but what about an Arabic-based IPA (Islamic > Phonetic > Alphabet?) I would imagine a need for North Caucasian languages, but > languages with a lot of vowel sounds might be a problem.... > > Or what about Hebrew script for Judeo-IPA?
Ohhhhhh....I haven't told you about the Ridiculese orthography...I'll present it soon, but for now, just this: it's alphabetic.
> >> Anyways, here are the numbers one to ten in Ridiculese (it's base-60, >> like >> Sumerian, but I can't be arsed to SAMPA-ify all the 60 right now...) > > Sexagesimal numeration pwns. I've decided to use base-60 for Tech instead > of > base-20 for whole numbers/base-12 for fractions. I still have to figure > out > how I'll be compounding roots polysynthetically to make numbers.
I've no real serious idea about how base-60 works. I'm just inferring, after 60 comes 60+1...till 60+59, then a new word...
> Two ways to construct affricates: for your Hungarian 'c', [t_s] and [ts)]. > Since the underscore/lowline is used primarily for secondary features, I'd > recommend the right-hand parenthesis for affricates and double > articulations > like [kp)].
I like the second better... ---ferko