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Re: OT: Gender Bending Moro

From:Joseph Bridwell <zhosh@...>
Date:Monday, April 4, 2005, 0:23
> > am willing to entertain the idea that classes, in > > a language which already has them, can shift to > > reflect a male bias. > > Do you have any possible examples in mind?
With me focusing on staying employed and staying alive, it's never been a research topic on which I spent much time; so, no, not beyond those already noted by others here (i.e. Spanish, etc.) for which one would need a great deal of data about proto-"Latin".
> >Q: Am I the only one who perceives professional linguists > >as prone to grab onto an idea and run it to its extreme? > >(e.g. Sapir-Whorf hypothesis)? > > I'm not sure what you mean here; it is my impression that > most linguists are not enthused about Sapir/Whorf at all, > and have no inclination to take it to extremes.
I was using the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis as an example (that's what the "e.g." preceding means). "Language can influence thought" was ramped up to "Language determines thought", which was batted about until rejected; and is now re-appearing as the "can influence" version. Same with the hypothesis of language classes being related to social gender. Saying "classes, in a language which already has them, CAN shift to reflect a male bias" is to me less extreme than "male bias IS exhibited via classes in languages".