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Re: Consonant allophones in Minza

From:T. A. McLeay <conlang@...>
Date:Friday, September 28, 2007, 17:24
Hello from the same hemisphere as most readers, for a change!

Philip Newton wrote:
> On 9/28/07, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote: >> In a conlang sketch, I once used >> >> |a e i o u| for /a e i o u/ (/a/ as more like [A]), >> and |ä ë ï ö ü| for /& V M 2 y/. >> >> Maybe it would be an option for you? This way, you have the diaeresis >> as a 'swap front-back' diacritic and still retain the standard values >> for the unmarked vowels. Furthermore, only |ë| and |ï| are lightly >> off-standard. > > And since /M/ is the value of Turkish dotless-i (AFAIK), you could > think of the second dot in |ï| "cancelling out" the first one, > resulting in a dotless-i, for which /M/ is an accepted pronunciation. > IYSWIM.
From what I've seen, Turkic linguists often use ï for the (phonemic) high back vowel. I can't remember if any language has three back unrounded vowels, and if so whether the middle one is marked by ë. As for Minza's orthography, I myself am partial to digraphs and, considering the allophony of preceding consonants, a system like ia ie i io iu for /& e i 2 y/ and ua ue ui uo u for /a V M o u/ strikes my fancy. /g/ vs /G~j\/ might be spelt using an e/o afterwards instead, so "gia" = [g&] but "gea" = [j\&]; "gua" = [ga] but "goa" = [Ga]. But I admit this orthography probably wouldn't work so well if there's lots of polysyllables and/or hiatus. You'd get more vowels than you can poke a stick at. -- Tristan.

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