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Re: "Abilitative" aspect?

From:bnathyuw <bnathyuw@...>
Date:Friday, October 25, 2002, 9:44
 --- Herman Miller <hmiller@...> wrote: > On Thu,
24 Oct 2002 09:24:43 -0400, Ian Maxwell
> <umlaut@...> > wrote: > > >'Allo, > > > >Apparently I've been thinking about conlanging in > my sleep, because I > >just invented a new verb aspect. Or re-invented it, > more likely. > >
well, i ought to chip in on bac, as it does both the mood thing and a rather different sort of modality ( please excuse the logic-speak term ) anyway, bac verbs have three moods : indicative, subjunctive and optative ( terms shamelessly nicked from ie ) -the indicative is used for relating fact -the subjunctive is used for describing situations that may or may not be fact -the optative is used for describing situations which may or may not be fact but which the speaker would like to be fact and hopes to make become fact by their speech action the subjunctive and optative are usually used in subordinate clauses of various types all three moods can be made into imperatives ( you add the personal suffix ), differing in levels of politeness and force ( in bac straightforwardness is seen as politeness, so the most polite is the indicative |Darer gedek Ged Rap| 'shut the door'; the subjunctive is seen as rather sarcastic |Dharer gedek Ged Rap| 'well, you might shut the door then' ; the optative is forceful but rather abrupt |Dnarer gedek Ged Rap| 'i wish you'ld just shut the door' ) but finally, the subjunctive and optative can be used in main clauses ( and by analogy with this force in subordinate clauses ) to indicate modality. the subjunctive indicates possibility and the optative necessity HOWEVER, there is another way of indicating modality in bac. this plays on the varieties of logical modality, so i'd better explain a couple of terms first i think about bac modality using the possible worlds interpretation of modality. i won't go into too much detail ( partly cuz i'm very rusty. i'll have to go back and reread my lewis ) anyway, this interpretation distinguishes the 'actual' world ( abbreviated @ ) from many 'possible' worlds. 'actual' is an indexical term ( its meaning shifts depending where and when it's used ) and refers to the world in which the utterance is made. in the rest of this message you'll have to read the words 'actual' and 'actually' in this specialised sense. a 'possible' world, in rough terms, is a world the actual world could have been if it hadn't been ended up as it actually is the theory's highest proponent is david lewis, who is a realist about possible worlds ( he believes the really exist . . . of course they don't _actually_ exist, but they are real entities ). bac buys this completely this done, i can explain the auxiliary verbs in bac ( for reference, auxiliaries are always followed by a subordinate clause in the subjuntive ) first up is |Per|. this is usually translated 'to be', but its meaning is in fact 'to be actual'. usually it isn't used, but there is an idiom where it can form positive forms of verbs ( |sot Per Ghap Ghop| 'i _do_ understand' ). it's also used when you've been talking about possibilities &c and you want to bring the topic back to actuality the other four form a quartet : |Suc| to be in no possible world |Rap| to be in at least one possible world but not the actual |Gil| to be in all possible worlds |Ter| to be in the actual world and any number ( including 0 ) of possible worlds usage and translation depend on context, but generally |Suc| is used for the impossible, |Rap| for the contingent negative ( it isn't actually the case, but it could be ), |Gil| for the necessary and |Ter| for the contingently possible. so |sot Rap Ghaj wer| 'i can't see you', |sot Suc Ghaj wer| 'i couldn't see you even if you were here', 'i'm blind to you' idiomatically the use is almost that |Suc| and |Gil| are emphatic negative and positive , whilst |Rap| and |Ter| are more commonplace, but the core meanings remain present to some extent i have a feeling i need a word for 'is not actual' without any possible world implications, but i don't have one yet anyway, there you are ( and there piglet is, if a tree doesn't fall on him ) bn ===== bnathyuw | landan | arR stamp the sunshine out | angelfish your tears came like anaesthesia | phèdre __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com