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USAGE: foreignisms [was Re: The [+foreign] attribute]

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Thursday, September 5, 2002, 12:15
Quoting bnathyuw <bnathyuw@...>:

> what _is_ very common is [tr\EIt] for [tr\EI] in the > word 'trait'
I have to wonder if the latter pronunciation is a learned restoration of the original pronunciation. The word has been around in English for a relatively long time (since 1589, at least). I don't know when French lost the /t/, but even if it was originally [tRE], it seems almost perverse to object to the presence of the spelling-pronunciation now. Certainly, in America, [treIt] (with [t]) is universal, which may mean the word has always been pronounced with a [t]. (Sir Walter Raleigh's lost colony had been planted only four years before that date, and the Jamestown settlers were getting situated not long afterwards.)
> as for 'garage' both ['g&r\A:Z] ( note stress ) and > ['g&r\IdZ] occur in yUK. i use the former, but it's > not that common
What do you mean by "yUK" -- youngpeople's UK speech? ========================================================================= Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. Chicago, IL 60637


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