Re: Q- and P- Celtic

> > > And as far as language as a function of being
> > > Scottish is concerned, I hope that Doric and
> > > Norn won't be neglected in the paper!
> >
> > I'm afraid they will:-( I have little material
> > about them and *very* little
> > time... My original plan was to write about
> > Gaelic, Scots and Shetlandic,
When I was in Scotland -- and associating with militant Scots
activists :-) -- I was given to understand that Shetlandic was
one of the dialects of Scots. Though now, in more than one
place, I've seen it classified as a separate entity. Either of
you know more about that? I'm curious.

> > but I've decided to concentrate only on the two
> > clear-cut macro-identities,
> > i.e. Celtic vs. Anglo-Saxon:-(
>
> Well, you've got it in there, then, just under a
> different name! Doric is just modern A-S! ;)
So's English! ;-)

> I
> don't like to use "Scots", though it's perfectly
> legit.
The problem is that the name Doric refers to the dialects of the
northeast only. The only name I can think of which covers all
varieties of the language is "Lallans", and that's something of
an artificial construct. I've never met a Scots speaker who
called the language that. All the Scots speakers I ever met
called it Scots, or Doric if that was the variety that they
spoke. I actually have (or had, at any rate) a good passive
understanding of Doric, from living in Aberdeen for four years,
though my ability to actually produce it is limited.

> Too many people confuse it with Scots
> Gaelic.
You think? I haven't experienced that so much as people
confusing Scottish Gaelic with Irish. I think in a lot of
people's (read: Americans') minds, "Gaelic" = "Ireland", period.

By the wey, Padraic, I didna ken ye haed sic an interest in the
guid mither tung! Hou braw it is tae ken thair's ither fowk oot
thair on wir wee listie apairt fae masel at appreiciates hit! :)

Have you seen the Luath Scots Language Learner by Colin Wilson?
(http://www.luath.co.uk/acatalog/Language.html) It's the first
serious "teach yourself" type textbook for Scots. I think it's
quite good. And it's based on northeast Scots, i.e. Doric! :)
Check it out.

Fairfaw the nou,

Tamas

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