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Re: Piat an isolate?

From:John Cowan <cowan@...>
Date:Monday, July 19, 1999, 14:03
A Rosta wrote:

> I have been wondering what the evidence is for Piat being an isolate. > I imagine that there is tons of superstrate influence,
Absolutely, particularly from (Austrian) High German and Court-Gothic, but also from Slova^cko, Vloxi (the Mud dialect), and even Romany.
> and that native > linguistic material is rather reduced. Further, I'd have thought that > there are an awful lot of candidates for a genetic relationship to be > ruled out before we can take "seems to be an isolate" to mean > more than "noone has done the research yet" or "noone who > publishes in English has done the research yet".
Quite likely. The most usual countertheory is that Piat, like Japanese and Korean, constitutes a separate and independent branch of Altaic, but the absence of vowel harmony and the reductionist phonology makes this view disfavored.
> Also, how much > do we know of the origins of the Piat? Do we know when they > entered Central Europe, and where they came from?
They were probably dragged along as slaves during a Voelkerwanderung.
> On a slightly different topic, do we know anything of how the Piat > fit into the larger society of the nations that they live in? Are they > peasants? Farmers and pastoralists in areas too meagre for > anyone else to bother farming? Disenfranchised latecomers > periodically persecuted and barely surviving as an ethnos past > 1945?
Yes to all three, except that since 1945 they have been independent, as a side effect of the post-1945 de facto settlement. Until 1989 they had a Communist government; since then they have had little or no government. -- John Cowan Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! / Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau / Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge / Politzer