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Not *that* vowel again! (was: Personal adjectives (was: Fruitful typos...)

From:BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Sunday, January 23, 2000, 17:21
At 21:30 -0500 22.1.2000, Steg Belsky wrote:
> >Not *that* vowel again! >Most American dialects seem to limit it to an allophone of /&/ before >liquids: >"care", "bail". >The dialect of the NYC Metro Area extends it to other words like "grass", >"crash", "bad". > >I've seen it represented as /E@/, but i've always felt that it starts a >little bit higher, somewhere probably between /e/ and /E/.
It sounds as [e@] to my foreign ear. I've seen it represented by American linguists as [I@], but I think that may be because there is no monophthongal [e] sound in their speech. I know one person who pronounces the land of his birth as ['ke@n@d@], and to my ear it is different from the /I@/ diphthong in his pronunciation of ['kneidI@n]. I got no idea what part of Canada this man is from, but it seems this sound does occur before nasals beyond the NYC Metro Area! :-) What strikes me with NYC speech is that /&/ seems to be nasalized in all positions. /BP B.Philip Jonsson <mailto: bpj@...> <mailto: melroch@...> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ Anant' avanaute quettalmar! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ___ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /Melarocco\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine__ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ I neer Pityancalimeo\ \_____/ /ar/ /_atar Mercasso naan ~~~~~~~~~Cuinondil~~~\_______/~~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda cuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)