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Re: Not *that* vowel again! (was: Personal adjectives (was: Fruitful typos...)

From:nicole perrin <nicole.eap@...>
Date:Sunday, January 23, 2000, 22:38
BP Jonsson wrote:
> > At 21:30 -0500 22.1.2000, Steg Belsky wrote: > > > >Not *that* vowel again! > >Most American dialects seem to limit it to an allophone of /&/ before > >liquids: > >"care", "bail". > >The dialect of the NYC Metro Area extends it to other words like "grass", > >"crash", "bad". > > > >I've seen it represented as /E@/, but i've always felt that it starts a > >little bit higher, somewhere probably between /e/ and /E/. > > It sounds as [e@] to my foreign ear. I've seen it represented by American > linguists as [I@], but I think that may be because there is no > monophthongal [e] sound in their speech.
I would definitely characterize it as /e@/. And let me just put in that I think it's the ugliest sound...My last name, which I pronounce /pErIn/, almost everyone I know pronounces as /pe@rIn/, and if I say something to them about it, they (almost) without fail completely fail to recognize a difference. aargh!! (BTW, this is in the "NYC Metro Area" read: SW CT) Nicole -- nicole.eap@snet.net http://nicole.conlang.org -- "They look like white elephants," she said. "I've never seen one," the man drank his beer. "No, you wouldn't have."