Re: Not *that* vowel again! (was: Personal adjectives (was: Fruitful typos...)
From: | nicole perrin <nicole.eap@...> |
Date: | Sunday, January 23, 2000, 22:38 |
BP Jonsson wrote:
>
> At 21:30 -0500 22.1.2000, Steg Belsky wrote:
> >
> >Not *that* vowel again!
> >Most American dialects seem to limit it to an allophone of /&/ before
> >liquids:
> >"care", "bail".
> >The dialect of the NYC Metro Area extends it to other words like "grass",
> >"crash", "bad".
> >
> >I've seen it represented as /E@/, but i've always felt that it starts a
> >little bit higher, somewhere probably between /e/ and /E/.
>
> It sounds as [e@] to my foreign ear. I've seen it represented by American
> linguists as [I@], but I think that may be because there is no
> monophthongal [e] sound in their speech.
I would definitely characterize it as /e@/. And let me just put in that
I think it's the ugliest sound...My last name, which I pronounce
/pErIn/, almost everyone I know pronounces as /pe@rIn/, and if I say
something to them about it, they (almost) without fail completely fail
to recognize a difference. aargh!! (BTW, this is in the "NYC Metro
Area" read: SW CT)
Nicole
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