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Re: New Arvorec words

From:Barry Garcia <barry_garcia@...>
Date:Monday, May 28, 2001, 0:48
CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU writes:
> >I hadn't thought about much of this before this thread came up, but all of >these conditions are inevitable with the cultural foundations I've already >designed. When your whole society centers around family, a lifestyle that >produces no children can hardly be tolerated.
It depends, like others have said. For instance, to take a real life example, in the Philippines, family is all important, however there are the bakla, or bayot (in cebuano), which are considered "feminine gendered men", so are considered an acceptible sexual outlet for heterosexual men (it is OK to be bakla or bayot as long as you act feminine). This term also covers transvestites and transexuals, along with feminine gay men. The sticking point is, bakla who are masculine and not femine are met with suspicion, because: "In other words, a man who looks like a man and acts like a man and also prefers men is someone who confuses the heterosexual object-choice dichotomy in Filipino popular perceptions of sexual behavior. " So, there's kind of a double standard in the Philippines, it's not abnormal to be gay and feminine there, but to be gay and masculine is something that's confusing or puzzling. Many Montreianos see homosexuality as something abnormal, and many use religion as justification for considering it abnormal. But, gay men who are feminine are more widely accepted than gay men who are masculine. The bigger cities do have areas where gay people hang out and live together. Often, these are former ghettos that have been gentrified (much like the Castro district of San Francisco). Lesbians are much more accepted than either feminine or masculine gay men (some see it as a natural extention of female social bonding). However, Montreianos tend to just not discuss the issue when it arises within a family. They tend to take the view of "what i dont see, isnt there". I wonder, has the Catholic church in IB taken a similar stance as it has in our world? That is, that homosexuality itself isnt a sin, but the acts are? ____________________________________________ At the end of it all lies of course the final phenomenon of deterioration-entropy-which is a predictable deterioration when the creative energy ceases: everything has to fall apart. - from: "Haunted" Poe