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Re: Welcome to vaksje (was: Re: New Survey: CelticConlangs (andother lunatic pursuits))

From:Douglas Koller, Latin & French <latinfrench@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 22:00
Nik wrote:

>Tristan wrote: >> In it's context, it was discussing Dutch, were, I understand based on >> the thread, there are different articles (_het_ and _de_) for nouns of >> different genders, so you'd have to know the gender before you could use >> the article > >Actually, that's something I've wondered about. Do speakers of >languages with genders not use the article until they're sure of the >word? I.e., would a Spanish-speaker never say "Consígueme el ... ¿qué >es la palabra? ..."? (I hope I got that right, my Spanish is a bit >rusty)
My experience has been that the speaker often has, at the preconscious level, a sense of the word s/he is going for and that may inform article choice. Once, at the surface level, the real article kicks in: Je veux le (perhaps with "ustensile" or just "truc" formed preconsciously), le, le, le, la fourchette! It needn't be consistent. One could vacillate as the preconscious thought finally gels: Je veux la, la (chose), le, le (truc), la, la (machine), le..., la... le mixer! A native speaker here at school confirms that this is her experience also. Kou

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