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Re: A question and introduction

From:JS Bangs <jaspax@...>
Date:Friday, June 14, 2002, 21:24
H. S. Teoh sikyal:

> > I'm sort of the opposite opinion. I have seen too many langs that depend > > too heavily on some "concept," which is said to flow from the culture, and > > which permeates the language in totally absurd ways. "This culture > > worships cows, so they only use the letters c-o-w, and all words have > > three syllables to match the number of letters in the word COW, and there > > are 348 individual roots for different kinds of cows, plus a whole set of > > cow-forming affixes, and poetry based on the noises that cows make, etc, > > etc, ad nauseum." This "deep, internal consistency" quickly turns into > > banality. > [snip] > > On the contrary, I think that such banality only arises from an initially > banal idea. I don't see what's wrong with having a common motif permeate > every aspect of the language, except when the motif itself is banal to > begin with.
To begin with, such things are unnatural. If you're making a conculture at all, I assume you have some interest in naturalness, and natlangs do *not* generally have motifs like this. Secondly, the whole notion is suspect to me--it implies a closer link between language and philosophy than I think exists, like Sapir-Whorf in reverse (as I said in my earlier e-mail). Finally, I am yet to see an actual example language with such a consistent motif where the execution wasn't rediculously simple-minded, leading me to think that the whole concept lends itself to bad results. Jesse S. Bangs jaspax@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/jaspax/ "If you look at a thing nine hundred and ninety-nine times, you are perfectly safe; if you look at it the thousandth time, you are in frightful danger of seeing it for the first time." --G.K. Chesterton