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Re: A question and introduction

From:Andy Canivet <cathode_ray00@...>
Date:Friday, June 14, 2002, 21:52
>I'm sort of the opposite opinion. I have seen too many langs that depend >too heavily on some "concept," which is said to flow from the culture, and >which permeates the language in totally absurd ways. "This culture >worships cows, so they only use the letters c-o-w, and all words have >three syllables to match the number of letters in the word COW, and there >are 348 individual roots for different kinds of cows, plus a whole set of >cow-forming affixes, and poetry based on the noises that cows make, etc, >etc, ad nauseum." This "deep, internal consistency" quickly turns into >banality. > >Concultures are needed to make religious, familial, food vocabulary, etc., >but I'm deeply suspicious of the langs that have cultural aspects to their >grammar or morphology. It's Sapir-Whorf in reverse. >
Too true :) It would be ridiculous to carry it very far (eek - cows?) - but culture surely does have an effect on language and vice versa, even if the relationship is subtle and hard to trace. Any influence that a culture has on its language should be abstract and minimal, but I do think that there is room for it at the very least. Consider, for example, the effect that keyboards and spellcheckers are having on English orthography these days... and its easy to see how a culture that was deeply into poetry might influence their language over time to be more lyrical - call it aesthetic selection pressure (in the evolutionary sense) that gradually molds the language. Obviously, the grammar would be one of the slower things to change, but... I think, like anything, a little goes a long way with this sort of thing. Andy _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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