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Re: Questions (mostly about phonemics)

From:Roger Mills <rfmilly@...>
Date:Monday, January 22, 2007, 5:16
Leon Lin wrote:
> > >What's this about Spanish containing one of these sounds? > > Oh, I found that on Wikipedia's X-Sampa page. Spanish 'fuego' is the > example under M\ (said to be ["fweM\o], but I haven't a clue). >
The usual rule for intervocalic /g/ in Span. is that it > velar fricative X-Sampa [G] IIRC. It's possible it could be laxed to approximant [M\] in very casual or fast speech-- though frankly I've seldom noticed it. OTOH [D] < -VdV- and (dialectally) final /d/=[D] after a stressed vowel can be very weakly articulated or even lost. It seems to be most common with participial -ádo, less so with other stressed vowels. But in voseo dialects, the imperative singular (< original plural form, hablad, oid etc) has completely lost the -d: hablá, oí etc. Even in phrases, -d- is often lost-- la casa de... [la'kas(a)e...] There may be dialects where -d loss is common everywhere (-d is rare, after all), which may account for the mentioned [ma'Dri] for Madrid. I've also heard it devoiced: [ma'DriT], probably the intermediate step. ObConlang: interestingly, [M\] is one development of *Vg(V)# in Gwr. Ultimately it results in either vowel-length or a V@ diphthong.