Re: Questions (mostly about phonemics)
From: | Roger Mills <rfmilly@...> |
Date: | Monday, January 22, 2007, 5:16 |
Leon Lin wrote:
>
> >What's this about Spanish containing one of these sounds?
>
> Oh, I found that on Wikipedia's X-Sampa page. Spanish 'fuego' is the
> example under M\ (said to be ["fweM\o], but I haven't a clue).
>
The usual rule for intervocalic /g/ in Span. is that it > velar fricative
X-Sampa [G] IIRC. It's possible it could be laxed to approximant [M\] in
very casual or fast speech-- though frankly I've seldom noticed it.
OTOH [D] < -VdV- and (dialectally) final /d/=[D] after a stressed vowel can
be very weakly articulated or even lost. It seems to be most common with
participial -ádo, less so with other stressed vowels. But in voseo dialects,
the imperative singular (< original plural form, hablad, oid etc) has
completely lost the -d: hablá, oí etc.
Even in phrases, -d- is often lost-- la casa de... [la'kas(a)e...]
There may be dialects where -d loss is common everywhere (-d is rare, after
all), which may account for the mentioned [ma'Dri] for Madrid. I've also
heard it devoiced: [ma'DriT], probably the intermediate step.
ObConlang: interestingly, [M\] is one development of *Vg(V)# in Gwr.
Ultimately it results in either vowel-length or a V@ diphthong.