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Re: Questions (mostly about phonemics)

From:Leon Lin <leon_math@...>
Date:Monday, January 22, 2007, 2:57
Thanks for all of the great replies! I should have searched around on some of my
questions. Now I've found that many websites have information about Chinese
phonology and how the b/p distinction is aspiration.

  Oops, sorry about the central/back mistake.

    >What's this about Spanish containing one of these sounds?

 Oh, I found that on Wikipedia's X-Sampa page. Spanish 'fuego' is the example
under M\ (said to be ["fweM\o], but I haven't a clue).

Eric Christopherson <rakko@...> wrote:  On Jan 20, 2007, at 5:23 PM, Leon Lin wrote:
> 3. Final pinyin /e/ does not seem to be pure, but with a unrounded > central > semivowel glide into it (I've heard people say that research has > yet to find > a language with a central semivowel). This glide seems to be a > semivowelized > unrounded high central vowel, described on the Ithkuil page as, "an > obscure > vowel found in Turkish and Japanese". (According to Wikipedia, it > exists in > Spanish and Korean as well (and IMO in Mandarin, too)) X-Sampa [M] > or [M\].
[M] and [M\] are back, not central; the high central unrounded vowel is [1] (sometimes written [i\] here). What's this about Spanish containing one of these sounds? I didn't find it in either the "Close central unrounded vowel" or "Close back unrounded vowel" articles on Wikipedia. I've never heard of either sound existing in Spanish, either, but now I'm curious. --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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