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Re: Why Triggers?

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Friday, October 12, 2001, 7:20
En réponse à Kristian Jensen <kljensen@...>:

> > Not much is on the web other than what generous members of this list > have volonteered. I remember two places; a short outdated sample from > the first conlang relay, and a fairly up-to-date description in the > conlang version of the ethnologue. Sorry... I don't remember the > web addresses to these two sites. If you want a complete description > of Boreanesian, you'll have to make do with what I have on hard-copy. > If you're still interested, send me your snail-mail address (off-list) > and I'll see what I can do. >
I've taken a look at the ethnologue. I do remember your extensive discussions about the dual-moieties system (BTW, I wish to resubscribe to the conculture list, but I have no idea where to find it. Can anyone tell me where's the address to subscribe?). I've also looked at the first conlang relay, which gave me quite a good idea of Boreanesian. But you say that it's an outdated form. What changed in Boreanesian? :) My Itakian is quite different. As soon as I come with morphemes, I'll share to the list what I've done about Itakian. But let's say that it's a language which makes an extensive use of nominal sentences (negative sentences, yes-no questions, sentences without focus, subordinate clauses are all nominal sentences) but which has also real verbal sentences using a trigger system. It has also a class system for nouns, where classes can also be used for derivation purposes. Trigger affixes on the verb partly agree on class with the trigger. It makes a limited use of reduplication. It has a strange deictic system (in fact not separated from the 3rd person pronouns) differentiating near, far and obviative (without near-far distinction). Moreover, it's a tonal language which uses tone both for semantic features and grammatical features (each word has a distinctive tone pattern, but this pattern can be changed for various reasons, eg.: trigger nouns always have high tone on their first syllable, and wh- kind of questions are asked by putting a distinctive pattern "rising-high" on the word in question). Finally, in verbal sentences the aspect (perfect or imperfect) is rendered through word order. And I'm not talking about the phonetic aspect of this monster. Vasiliy may remember a little about it :) . Let's say that I've simplified things, but there are still difficulties in this, especially tone sandhis :) . And if you want to put Boreanesian on the web, I can arrange you 100Mo of webspace. I use Free, which is a French provider. Like it says, it's completely free, and it allows me to create as many accounts as I want, all with one distinct e-mail address and 100Mo of webspace. I currently have two, but I can create as many as I want. So, if you want I can arrange you a webpage, something like: http://boreanesia.free.fr. What do you think of it? Of course, you'll have to provide with the content :) .
> > The traffic here is terrible that it is difficult for me to catch up. > But I'll > see what I can do. >
OK. I hope you find a way to stay here :) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr

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