Re: Why Triggers?
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Friday, October 12, 2001, 7:20 |
En réponse à Kristian Jensen <kljensen@...>:
>
> Not much is on the web other than what generous members of this list
> have volonteered. I remember two places; a short outdated sample from
> the first conlang relay, and a fairly up-to-date description in the
> conlang version of the ethnologue. Sorry... I don't remember the
> web addresses to these two sites. If you want a complete description
> of Boreanesian, you'll have to make do with what I have on hard-copy.
> If you're still interested, send me your snail-mail address (off-list)
> and I'll see what I can do.
>
I've taken a look at the ethnologue. I do remember your extensive discussions
about the dual-moieties system (BTW, I wish to resubscribe to the conculture
list, but I have no idea where to find it. Can anyone tell me where's the
address to subscribe?). I've also looked at the first conlang relay, which gave
me quite a good idea of Boreanesian. But you say that it's an outdated form.
What changed in Boreanesian? :)
My Itakian is quite different. As soon as I come with morphemes, I'll share to
the list what I've done about Itakian. But let's say that it's a language which
makes an extensive use of nominal sentences (negative sentences, yes-no
questions, sentences without focus, subordinate clauses are all nominal
sentences) but which has also real verbal sentences using a trigger system. It
has also a class system for nouns, where classes can also be used for
derivation purposes. Trigger affixes on the verb partly agree on class with the
trigger. It makes a limited use of reduplication. It has a strange deictic
system (in fact not separated from the 3rd person pronouns) differentiating
near, far and obviative (without near-far distinction). Moreover, it's a tonal
language which uses tone both for semantic features and grammatical features
(each word has a distinctive tone pattern, but this pattern can be changed for
various reasons, eg.: trigger nouns always have high tone on their first
syllable, and wh- kind of questions are asked by putting a distinctive
pattern "rising-high" on the word in question). Finally, in verbal sentences
the aspect (perfect or imperfect) is rendered through word order. And I'm not
talking about the phonetic aspect of this monster. Vasiliy may remember a
little about it :) . Let's say that I've simplified things, but there are still
difficulties in this, especially tone sandhis :) .
And if you want to put Boreanesian on the web, I can arrange you 100Mo of
webspace. I use Free, which is a French provider. Like it says, it's completely
free, and it allows me to create as many accounts as I want, all with one
distinct e-mail address and 100Mo of webspace. I currently have two, but I can
create as many as I want. So, if you want I can arrange you a webpage,
something like: http://boreanesia.free.fr. What do you think of it? Of course,
you'll have to provide with the content :) .
>
> The traffic here is terrible that it is difficult for me to catch up.
> But I'll
> see what I can do.
>
OK. I hope you find a way to stay here :) .
Christophe.
http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr
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