Re: Schwa and [V]: Learning the IPA
|From:||Benct Philip Jonsson <bpjonsson@...>|
|Date:||Thursday, June 22, 2006, 12:09|
Paul Roser skrev:
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:01:40 +0100, And Rosta <and.rosta@...> wrote:
>>IMO, when Wells and his antecedents (Gimson, Jones) write "[V]", they mean
>>"[V]" -- with its IPA value. (Of course when they write "/V/", they simply
> I stand corrected. I did check Wells the other night - in the section where
> he discusses the realizations of STRUT he does indeed identify that /V/ has
> a wide range of dialectal realizations, including a fronted/centered
> higher-mid back unrounded vowel and the turn-a, just don't remember which
> applies to which dialect. I was confusing my memory of the pervasive usage
> of /V/ with relatively narrow phonetic usage of [V] - though IIRC most
> American texts that deal with American English generalize the use of
> broad-transcription [V] to designate the stressed STRUT vowel in AmE.
If I have understood things clearly the turned |v| for STRUT
goes back to Ellis' Paleotype. It is another matter if the
*phonetic* sound Ellis meant was low back mid unrounded --
i.e. if STRUT ever was pronounced with [V], or if there
was a discrepancy between Anglicist usage and official
IPA from the outset.
Unfortunately there is no reference to Paleotype online.
I have put myself on queue for a book from my Uni library
which I know to contain a description and a reproduced chart.
When I get the book I'll put up a draft article on FrathWiki,
have you all review it and then put it on Wikipedia.
Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se
a shprakh iz a dialekt mit an armey un flot