Re: Schwa and [V]: Learning the IPA

On 6/16/06, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
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> I wouldn't pay much attention to WikiPedia in matters such as this.
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> Note, however, that Wiki gives [3`], not [3], for the NURSE vowel in Gen. Am.
> That little trailing accent indicates "rhoticity", a property I shan't try and
> explain articulatorily, but is quite noticeable in the sound of the vowel, even
> if it's pronounced at the same point as a plain one.
Sure, the "r" that's spelled there renders the vowel rhotic for me.
However, the only American dialect I'm aware of (and, not to be
falsely modest, I'm aware of a lot of them) that can put something
close to the "u" of "cut" into a word like "her" or "nurse" is the
Bronx accent.

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> Also, many Americans render "nurse" as [nr\=s], which is quite different from
> [n3s] in sound; maybe you're among them.
>
>                                                         Andreas
>
I'm sure I am. Along with about 80% of the American and Canadian
population (pretty much everybody who's not on the Atlantic seaboard).

---larry