Re: Schwa and [V]: Learning the IPA

David J. Peterson wrote:

> Mark J. Reed wrote:
> <<
> For a long time, I thought that I pronounced the English phoneme /V/ -
> that is, the vowel in Wells' STRUT lexical set - as, in fact, [V]
> >>
>
> In my opinion, this is just another one of those IPA myths they've
> cooked up (i.e., when stressed, the "schwa" vowel in English is [V];
> when unstressed, it's [@]; this is because schwa can never be
> stressed in English).  I believe it has no basis in reality whatsoever.
> If you hear this sound (which occurs in Vietnamese), it becomes
> obvious that it doesn't exist in most (if not any) dialects of English
>
Well, /V/ certainly isn't [@] IME.  Then again, it's probably not [V]
either.  Someone gave an example of an unstressed /V/ earlier, as well,
that being 'hiccup'.