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Re: USAGE: Weird dialectal stuff

From:Tom Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Sunday, January 9, 2000, 21:20
Nik Taylor wrote:

> Barry Garcia wrote: > > He gave two examples of the dialect, pen and pin (I can't describe the > > sounds accurately , but suffice to say, both words are said kind of in > > between the sounds of both words) both sound the same, > > That's exactly like Southern American English before nasals, "pin" and > "pen" are both /pIn/. In this Fresno dialect, does this happen for > *all* /I/ and /E/? Are "pet" and "pit" homophones for him? > > On a Canadian show called "Kids in the Hall", there was a skit where a > person was trying to find his pen, which he realized he had lent to > someone, who didn't return it. Anyways, throughout the skit he's saying > things like "that's my pen!" using /E/, so everytime he said it, it > sounded very odd to me! :-)
Yeah, I know what you mean. I remember in my World History class in highschool when we had a teacher-in-training helping out the teacher that day. I remember distinctly she was talking about the Spanish Armada, and used something like [t_hE:n] for "ten", which really weirded me out. Since I didn't know at the time about the [I]/[E] variation among some dialects, I thought she was trying to be consciously pretentious or nonconformist or something... But that lengthened [E:] was the strongest I've ever heard it used in my presence. From what I can tell from television broadcasts, the vowel used by broadcasters is somewhere in between [I] and [E], though almost indistinguishably so. =========================================== Tom Wier <artabanos@...> AIM: Deuterotom ICQ: 4315704 <http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eclectorium/> "Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero." ===========================================